We must build community resources, interventions, and support that do not rely on the carceral system. Listen as Aaron and Damien discuss a resource guide by Shira Hassan and Interrupting Criminalization called “Painting the Ocean & the Sky”, which provides guidance to abolitionist activists, organizers, and leaders on best practices for building collective community-based, non-carceral responses to crises, and what we learn from this incredible resource in our continued learning about abolition and work for collective liberation. Listen to this episode here or wherever you podcast!